Aug 15, 2007

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I think the last time the blasphemy law was used in Great Britain was sometime in 1933, it doesn't matter they should not be on the Statute books in the first place. They are nothing more than religious censorship. It doesn't matter how ridiculous the Religion might be, most are to some extent, especially there creation mythes, one in Africa believes that the world was created from ant shit. These laws simple ring fence the religion and stop them from being criticized. Let me for example use Godel's incompleteness theorem to refute the existence of God. The theorem states


For any consistent formal, computably enumerable theory that proves basic arithmetical truths, an arithmetical statement that is true, but not provable in the theory, can be constructed. That is, any effectively generated theory capable of expressing elementary arithmetic cannot be both consistent and complete.


What he is basically saying is that it is impossible to know everything. One of the definitions of God is that he is all knowing all powerful this contradicts the above statement. If God made the world then he could not know everything , because if he did know everything then it would be possible for us to know everything, as it is impossible for us to know everything then God could not know everything. Therefore God is not perfect, therefore God does not exist, at least in the form that we or other religions define him. This statement would be Blasphemous because it contradicts the believes of the different religions. It doesn't matter how correct and logical the arguments are, we could be sued fined and imprisoned under the Blasphemy laws. Luckily these have fallen into disuse and it would be very unlikely for this to happen.


Blasphemy laws give religion a privileged position they can sue but you cannot counter sue they are always the injured party. The old adage that you are innocent until you are proven guilty no longer exist. You are deemed guilty until you can prove your innocence. Most religions stripped of there religiosity are usually nothing more than money making corporation. The more members they have the more money they make. This gives them more resources to sue, usually individuals who have criticized them, this shuts down debate. Luckily these laws are not used anymore


While these Blasphemy laws are not used anymore, and have mainly been forgotten, certain Acts of parliament have been passed in the last few decades are having the same effect as the Blasphemy laws. While these acts were passed with good intentions, the consequences have been catastrophic in stopping any meaningful debate. I am referring particularity to the Race Relations Act of 1976 with all the amendments and fine tuning that it has had since. Like the Blasphemy act it has give members of certain races a privileged position in our society. While trying to stop discrimination of minorities a worthwhile object itself it has discriminated against the majority. It has closed down debate and forced it underground. It has given the right to decide what is racist and what is not, not only to the minorities but to the authorities themselves. Who, well supplied with funds can force their agenda through the courts. Being an individual you will be destroyed. It is a dangerous course we have now embarked on. I could for example imagine a person who had two houses one he lived in himself, the other lived in by an old couple. Let us say for example that the old couple died and he decided to rent it out to his daughter who was engaged to get married and could not afford to buy a house. Imagine now a member of a different race married and with children seeing the house empty came to the persons door and asked to rent the house. Let us go a little further and the persons says sorry but that house is for my daughter. I could imagine that this person could be successfully sued under the race relations act and be forced to rent out the house to this other person. His decision, of cause is racist, but his daughters race is a matter of birth not choice. What parent wouldn't do such a thing for his children. I know I certainly would, people tend to look after their own. His decision to rent it out to his daughter was certainly not motivated by any racism, but the courts would see it differently. Bad Laws make for bad Justice and these new type of Blasphemy laws, are in need of serious curtailment or better still should be struck off the statute books as soon as possible.


Ridiculous you might say, but is it? I have just received an E-mail from a friend which shows clearly how these new blasphemy laws can and are being used to shut down debate and criticism, of anything the State finds offensive. All done in the name of racial equality.


The police have been investigating a channel 4 documentary concerning Jihadist teachings in a UK mosque, which to put it mildly puts Islam in a poor light. They have most likely been forced to do this because they have received a complaint from a muslim. Whether they want to do this or not is most likely irrelevant, they most like have to do it as a matter of cause if they receive a complain. The police by these laws have been placed in an insidious position having to make decision which should rightfully be made in a court of law.

A local seeing this as an assault on his civil liberties has lodged a counter complaint. What follows is series of a posting on Jihad Watch an American Blogg. Please read and try not to weep,


Posting (1)


I thought that all here might like to know that I have, today, emailed the
West Midlands Police Force a formal complaint alleging that they have
infringed my Human Rights to free speech and open debate by their actions
and asking for an inquiry into the conduct of the investigation into this
television programme. I have also indicated that I feel that they may have
been guilty of racism against my community
(Anglo-Saxon/Norman/Celtic/Christian) in Britain and asked that they
investigate this also.

I have reserved my position about making a formal complaint against them via
my own local Force until such time as I receive a reply from them. I have
copied my complaint to my MP - much good though that will do, given my
particular Liberal Democrat MP who, it seems to me, pays scant regard to the
opinions or needs of his constituents.

There may be very few of you British readers here who will join me in
formally complaining about a Police Force but I have ceased to care about
that. For me, this ridiculous charge against a completely, in my opinion,
blameless television programme is simply the last straw. I viewed the
programme when it was broadcast. Really, believe me, there was nothing in it
that a loyal British citizen could possibly have taken offense to, in my
opinion.

If anyone wants to support me, in any way at all, please email me at
OliverPCamford@hotmail.co.uk
I will try to reply to all emails but there is only one of me. I'm going to
make this an issue if I can and your support would be most welcome if you
care to give it.


The following posting is from another poster on jihad watch and is very prophetic


Posting (2)


Good for you, Oliver. Good for you.

The rot really set in in the early 90's when the Government/Establishment caved in over the "Satanic Verses" uproar.

There are seminal moments that decide what will happen for the following years and this was one of them. The muslims haven't looked back.

We had the spectacle of thousands of people calling for the murder of a writer. For writing a book that none of them read. Granted, none of them had ever read any book for the simple reason that they're inbred illiterates but that's by the by.

Nothing happened to them.

The leaders, speakers etc should have been tried for incitement to murder and sent away for a good few years.

Sometimes the Government really must lead: show some spine. It caved in of course.

The opposite happened. Many Christian groups particularly the Catholic organisations shamed themselves to the Nth degree by talking of having to "understand" muslims - it's a one way street folks - and bizarrely by calling for the author to be tried - the bully's victim is guilty in their world -

Letters in the local papers complained that taxpayers money was going on defending Rushdie's life.

So that's Britain today.

We must bend over backwards when dealing with butt ugly inbred bullies: their "sensitivities" must at all times be treated with kid gloves and people who write books must be charged with a crime.

Anyway, Oliver. Good for you.

How much do you want to bet that police pay you a visit.



This posting is from the first poster Oliver Camford the day after here things get really ugly.


Post (3)


How much do you want to bet that police pay you a visit

They did just a scant few hours ago. Apparently my complaint is in and of
itself 'racist'. Great, isn't it? I complain against racism and get accused
of being racist because I complain against racism ......... Weird world we
live in!

My local constabulary will not accept a complaint against any other
constabulary that they consider to be a racist complaint, either. I've had
my laptop and my two desktops confiscated by the police and I have been
warned that under the provisions of various acts of Parliament I am not
allowed to tell you that.

So, f**k them. I'm telling you. I've borrowed a computer and I'm back on
line and I'm determined that they won't get away with this.

I run (ran?) a small company in the advertising and promotions sphere up
until yesterday - not a particularly successful company but one that, at
least, provided a living for me and a few others - and today I'm forbidden
to go on line on pain of being classified as a terrorist!

Please! Me! A terrorist! Since when did I advocate the killing of anybody?

Oh! Sorry! I forgot! I'm Christian, British, white Anglo-Saxon/Norman, male
and therefore must be a suspect! Worse than that, over the last twenty-four
hours it has become painfully obvious that I have no rights at all - the
laws of my country aren't supposed to protect me but supposed to protect all
who aren't me or like me!

Apparently I can be imprisoned, without charge and for an indefinite length
of time, for posting this. Like I give a toss!

So, exactly how free is Britain today? I've already been held for over
fourteen hours without access to a solicitor because I refused to accept a
caution. Great, isn't it, to live in a free country? Obviously, I'm not
allowed to criticise anyone who holds a different opinion or religious bias
from my own but, and much more importantly, I'm not allowed to criticise any
viewpoint which conforms to the islamically accepted norm.

This is not the end - it just the beginning.



Is this as he states Just the Beginning, or the beginning of the end? All this has come about because of the soft tyranny implicit in any anti discrimination laws. When you make such a law however well intended, you have to define discrimination and discrimination is always in the eye of the beholder.


If any of the readers would like to give this gentleman any support moral or otherwise feel free to e-mail him at his e-mail address in the first posting


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ian said...

all this difficult to believe. although I did get my family out of Britain in 1980 as we saw this type of thing becoming possible.. I will watch with interest.
Good luck
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